The Plan

Here is the rendition that has been making the rounds as supplied by Transport Quebec.

It sure looks nice and green and all that and the implication is that the current version of Autoroute 20 will be removed and replaced by trees and lawns, and that there will be some extending of the Falaise Saint Jacques which would eliminate Pullman street. Not bad! Of course I would prefer to see the highway as far from the Falaise as possible, as in where it is now, but they obviously have made the change to enable traffic to continue to flow during most of the construction. I will discuss the other possible options on that in a future post.

And for now, some fearless critiques and comments on The Plan.

1) In this rendition Notre Dame street looks like a series of locks to be traversed but are probably overpasses. Could be a major traffic issue if Notre Dame is to be blocked for any length of time. It currently serves as a short cut and “feeder” to the 20 especially during rush hours. It is also the closest thing to a rush hour bus lane the STM uses. The 211/221(rush hour version) buses, along with commuter trains, are the main public transportation to the West Island.

2) Looks like the old train route through Saint Henri will remain intact with some landscaping around the Jaztex et Austres building and the soon to be deserted 2M Ressources. Rumor has it that a high speed train from PET International to downtown may go through there one day. Now there are residents in this area who will be very inconvenienced during construction. I wonder if a bike/pedestrian overpass would work along there?

3) Does not look like any special links for the Glen Yards Superhospital is included here (though construction of the hospital and the interchange will be simultaneous at some point) . And Saint Jacques will go over the lead road with a  new ramp for Saint Remi to connect NDG and Saint Henri. I wonder if all these streets leading into or near the interchange will ever be closed simultaneously? Have to be careful with those logistics!

4) Rue De L’Eglise will be quite different. If they want to build alongside the current elevated line they will have to take some buildings out and it all may add to the worst traffic nightmare imaginable for Cote Saint Paul, especially as the La Verendrye ramp is going to be completely changed, let alone probable blockages at the Saint Remi tunnel.

5) Would be nice to see the Angrignon overpass as it will look in the future along with the whole of Turcot Yards. The west end of Turcot will surely be extremely busy and it would be interesting to see the logistical plan for dealing with that. Major access points to the 20 for NDG and Lasalle.

6) They say that by building the new interchange on the ground they can maintain traffic flow. Perhaps for the first few years things will run smoothly, but how on earth are they going to connect Decarie Expressway and the new Turcot Interchange without there being major stoppages in traffic? They will have to lower the “mouth” of decarie to meet the new ramps, close off and demolish the old ramps, and build the new lanes towards each other. Going to be very tricky to say the least. And the Ville Marie will present the same problem!

5 responses to “The Plan

  1. I think there is a missed opportunity here to connect Cavendish blvd. south of St-Jacques directly to Autoroute 20. Cavendish is the only major north-south artery west of Decarie and it could benefit from a more direct link to the 20. It could easily be done. The Angrignon and Cavendish interchanges could also be linked by service roads, so one could go from Cavendish south to Angrignon and Ville Emard, Ville LaSalle and Verdun much more directly. Just my two cents.

  2. Excellent point! I think there may be a lot of missed opportunities with this plan. It seems to me that this design will be particularly satisfying to no one except the planners. I mean it kind of looks good but the time involved and the enormous amount of space being guzzled up makes me want to say, “what?”

    I’ve said it before and I will say it again, Height Is Good! Imagine that the city of Montreal found out that it would have to tear down Place Ville Marie and then released a plan to build a 12 storey building in it’s place.

    They’ve missed the boat here.

    Link to Place Ville Marie

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  4. I just noticed that the Jaztec-Austres or 780 Saint Remi building is actually on this map. They plan to tear it down along with some othert housing blocks and businesses. Strange they didn’t notice that?

  5. All that green space – sure – one moment, Elvis is on the other line.
    Hwy 20 is fine where it is now, no need to move it near the Falaise at great expense.
    No plan for the area is worth the paper it is on unless it includes a comprehensive plan for the area immediately above the Falaise. Consider this; there is talk of numerous condo projects being built on the summit of the NDG Esacarpment (along with parks) the view being a major selling point. But what of the health of the people living there if hwy 20 were to be moved next to the escarpment? All that highway pollution! This is urban planning at its worst and would never be allowed in foreward-looking places which have more intelligent standards for building such as California. We need to see how the Falaise and the new road-structure compete for numerous items such as fresh air, quiet (they say the Falaise will be a good natural sound barrier, not so I say, ask any skydiver what the ground does to sound in terms of moving upward – another bad idea) and human movement (not just in vehicles.)
    Regarding time-frames; Dorval is still awaiting the 2006 scheduled begining of restructuring the Dorval Circle. Nothing is happening there except the devolution of the hwy 20 / Dorval Avenue overpass – I’ll grab a few shots – and the train overpass is also looking rather shabby with loads of cement falling from the structure.
    Ahhh, Montreal, Quebec. They love to dream. Look around at all those dreams rotting. Thaks to all the “little people” who care about their communities.
    The developpers are running rampant and amok at the expense of our resources and quality of life. “The market only knows the price of lunch.” -Bruce Cockburn

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