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		<title>Comment on December 6 by Robert Hennecke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Hennecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valid points mr Neath, but in order to truly avoid massacres etc.. such as this there needs to a transparent system with no tipping of the scales for women and minorities as the end result is fuel for the fire. I risk being labelled whatever but think of it, do we truly want architects doctors, engineers etc... getting their jobs because the world bent over backwards to make things easier for them on the basis of past wrongs. Those 14 women and however many other victims died because this lepine guy was convinced that he had been prevented from being able to get into Polytechnique. Maybe he was totally unable academically to handle it, maybe not but there are many things put in place to make things easier financially and academically to ensure that women and minorities have greater chances at competing. The problem with this and things like chapeau les filles is that it is tipping the scales. There may be under 20 % of females in engineering but in many other fields it is way over 50 % and I ask who are the majority of the unemployed and who are the majority of the homeless ? proud white males who are not adjusting vey well to an economy where companies get to use the slave labour of the PR China to make mfg a lost cause which used to employ many men. The unemployment rate for men in Canada is 8,5 % as opposed to 6,5 % for women, a 30 % relativistic difference. i was very rudely treated by professors at Concordia and the administration turned a blind eye yet the same treatment to a woman or a minority would have had that profesor out on the curb. One needs to ask who really made the great sacrifices to make it possible for Universities to exist, those that laid down their lives in the defence of Canada but the offspring of these people are the least likely to benefit now. 

I was on my own at 18 and had a really rough time doing physical jobs while going to University and yet I saw a system that bends over backwards for the prior mentioned &quot;disadvantaged&#039; groups at the expense of &quot;my&quot; group and I have to tell you, no I never got anywhere near that lepine character&#039;s level of anger but there should be at least be an evenhanded method of dealing with academia as possible. Seriously the admissions systems is wide open to abuses as it is a behind closed doors system. The idea that women are not treated extra nicley by the system as well as fellow students is a lie. These 14 women were victims of a madman but the potential for future lepines is being created by the lack of even handedness. I am not talking about preventing any woman or minority from any field of work or study etc.... but everyone should be treated as evenly as possible. No special bursaries, no lesser fees, no special awards no quotas for admissions, no easier marking and extra soft dealing with these more &quot;vulnerable&quot; people because in reality it isn&#039;t a sex issue, nor a race issue but what was your socio-economic standing that determines one&#039;s prospects for success. I was on my own at 18 and grew up in &quot;the&quot; toughest and poorest distict in Canada and was the only one of 60 to get into any University of my grade 7 elementary class (we all went to different high schools outside of the point so I have to use that grade for comparison) and should this not be more of a discouraging element than what a woman from a minority family from even a middle class family. Minority families are far more supportive of their childrens education goals so what I am saying is the system is geared to create more Marc Lepines and not fewer. Loving our children etc.... is all cute and everything but the perception of an unjust society whereby a university degree is the only thing seperating one from a life at Home depot or making 75 k a year and that being reserved for woman and minorities does not a safe situation make.

This comment is sure to make people angry but seriously the situation is more tense now than it was then as mfg. jobs have dissapeared and there are only crap jobs left for those who can&#039;t make it into a decent program at University. I am no longer desperate to have people like me so I don&#039;t care about telling it like it is and I am saying the best way to avoid future Marc lepines is to create a truly transparent and even handed system as well as keeping everything from being made in China. There are a lot of underlying tensions in our society and the potential for people to do these types of things is worse now than it was before as it really is a winner take all society and it&#039;s not right. It is tragic about those women and other victims, the system needs to be straightened out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valid points mr Neath, but in order to truly avoid massacres etc.. such as this there needs to a transparent system with no tipping of the scales for women and minorities as the end result is fuel for the fire. I risk being labelled whatever but think of it, do we truly want architects doctors, engineers etc&#8230; getting their jobs because the world bent over backwards to make things easier for them on the basis of past wrongs. Those 14 women and however many other victims died because this lepine guy was convinced that he had been prevented from being able to get into Polytechnique. Maybe he was totally unable academically to handle it, maybe not but there are many things put in place to make things easier financially and academically to ensure that women and minorities have greater chances at competing. The problem with this and things like chapeau les filles is that it is tipping the scales. There may be under 20 % of females in engineering but in many other fields it is way over 50 % and I ask who are the majority of the unemployed and who are the majority of the homeless ? proud white males who are not adjusting vey well to an economy where companies get to use the slave labour of the PR China to make mfg a lost cause which used to employ many men. The unemployment rate for men in Canada is 8,5 % as opposed to 6,5 % for women, a 30 % relativistic difference. i was very rudely treated by professors at Concordia and the administration turned a blind eye yet the same treatment to a woman or a minority would have had that profesor out on the curb. One needs to ask who really made the great sacrifices to make it possible for Universities to exist, those that laid down their lives in the defence of Canada but the offspring of these people are the least likely to benefit now. </p>
<p>I was on my own at 18 and had a really rough time doing physical jobs while going to University and yet I saw a system that bends over backwards for the prior mentioned &#8220;disadvantaged&#8217; groups at the expense of &#8220;my&#8221; group and I have to tell you, no I never got anywhere near that lepine character&#8217;s level of anger but there should be at least be an evenhanded method of dealing with academia as possible. Seriously the admissions systems is wide open to abuses as it is a behind closed doors system. The idea that women are not treated extra nicley by the system as well as fellow students is a lie. These 14 women were victims of a madman but the potential for future lepines is being created by the lack of even handedness. I am not talking about preventing any woman or minority from any field of work or study etc&#8230;. but everyone should be treated as evenly as possible. No special bursaries, no lesser fees, no special awards no quotas for admissions, no easier marking and extra soft dealing with these more &#8220;vulnerable&#8221; people because in reality it isn&#8217;t a sex issue, nor a race issue but what was your socio-economic standing that determines one&#8217;s prospects for success. I was on my own at 18 and grew up in &#8220;the&#8221; toughest and poorest distict in Canada and was the only one of 60 to get into any University of my grade 7 elementary class (we all went to different high schools outside of the point so I have to use that grade for comparison) and should this not be more of a discouraging element than what a woman from a minority family from even a middle class family. Minority families are far more supportive of their childrens education goals so what I am saying is the system is geared to create more Marc Lepines and not fewer. Loving our children etc&#8230;. is all cute and everything but the perception of an unjust society whereby a university degree is the only thing seperating one from a life at Home depot or making 75 k a year and that being reserved for woman and minorities does not a safe situation make.</p>
<p>This comment is sure to make people angry but seriously the situation is more tense now than it was then as mfg. jobs have dissapeared and there are only crap jobs left for those who can&#8217;t make it into a decent program at University. I am no longer desperate to have people like me so I don&#8217;t care about telling it like it is and I am saying the best way to avoid future Marc lepines is to create a truly transparent and even handed system as well as keeping everything from being made in China. There are a lot of underlying tensions in our society and the potential for people to do these types of things is worse now than it was before as it really is a winner take all society and it&#8217;s not right. It is tragic about those women and other victims, the system needs to be straightened out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fire At Old CN Yards In Point by Robert Hennecke</title>
		<link>http://neath.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/fire-at-old-cn-yards-in-point/#comment-12565</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hennecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corrected version, typing at a small somputer makes me make errors. 
Now the landlord who picked up the 3,5 million square feet of land for 1 $ can turn the site into condo developments. What could have been far better for the community would be if CN had bequeathed the entire lands to a non-profit organization set up to manage it on behalf of the community (Pt. St. Charles) and they could have negotiated with the corporate world regarding terms of employment etc... The CNR had employed people from the area since the Grand Trunk Railroad had been created and yet when they walked away from the land they sold it for a dollar to a well connected lawyer. Corporate responsibility ? Community values ? cooperative development ?

That is a very difficult to replicate industrial infrastructure located within metro distance of 1,5 million people. That could have been an excellent selling point as many large scale projects are typically located in remote locations with limited skilled labour available. Selling this to a condo developer may have made good business sense to the CN in some convoluted way but to society as a whole it was utterly retarded as an entire economic policy for the southwest area of montreal could have been based upon that land holding. The current residential building boom is great for condo developers but here was a way to have employment for people who would not have required vehicles to go to far flung areas and it was thrown away. Worse than that because it has rail lines going right into the facility it could have been used to make large scale windmills or even have been turned into a car production line emplying thousands as it had been used to produce sherman tanks in WW2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corrected version, typing at a small somputer makes me make errors.<br />
Now the landlord who picked up the 3,5 million square feet of land for 1 $ can turn the site into condo developments. What could have been far better for the community would be if CN had bequeathed the entire lands to a non-profit organization set up to manage it on behalf of the community (Pt. St. Charles) and they could have negotiated with the corporate world regarding terms of employment etc&#8230; The CNR had employed people from the area since the Grand Trunk Railroad had been created and yet when they walked away from the land they sold it for a dollar to a well connected lawyer. Corporate responsibility ? Community values ? cooperative development ?</p>
<p>That is a very difficult to replicate industrial infrastructure located within metro distance of 1,5 million people. That could have been an excellent selling point as many large scale projects are typically located in remote locations with limited skilled labour available. Selling this to a condo developer may have made good business sense to the CN in some convoluted way but to society as a whole it was utterly retarded as an entire economic policy for the southwest area of montreal could have been based upon that land holding. The current residential building boom is great for condo developers but here was a way to have employment for people who would not have required vehicles to go to far flung areas and it was thrown away. Worse than that because it has rail lines going right into the facility it could have been used to make large scale windmills or even have been turned into a car production line emplying thousands as it had been used to produce sherman tanks in WW2.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fire At Old CN Yards In Point by Robert Hennecke</title>
		<link>http://neath.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/fire-at-old-cn-yards-in-point/#comment-12564</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hennecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now the landlord who picked up the 3,5 million square feet of land for 1 $ can turn the site into condo developments. What could have been far better for the community would have been if CN had bequeathed the entire lands to the a non-profit organization set up to manage it on behalf of the community (Pt. St. Charles) and negotiating with the corporate world terms for employment etc... The CNR had employed people from the area since the Grand trunk Railroad had been created and yet when they walked away from the land it sold it for a dollar to a well connected lawyer. Corporate responsibility ? Community values ? cooperative development ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now the landlord who picked up the 3,5 million square feet of land for 1 $ can turn the site into condo developments. What could have been far better for the community would have been if CN had bequeathed the entire lands to the a non-profit organization set up to manage it on behalf of the community (Pt. St. Charles) and negotiating with the corporate world terms for employment etc&#8230; The CNR had employed people from the area since the Grand trunk Railroad had been created and yet when they walked away from the land it sold it for a dollar to a well connected lawyer. Corporate responsibility ? Community values ? cooperative development ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Just Don&#8217;t Get It! by neath</title>
		<link>http://neath.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/we-just-dont-get-it/#comment-12563</link>
		<dc:creator>neath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea, so true, we just don&#039;t WANT to get it. You would think that they would be concerned about continuity, like what is going to happen to their kids, grandchildren, but I guess just ignoring everything allows for happy endings somewhere inside......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea, so true, we just don&#8217;t WANT to get it. You would think that they would be concerned about continuity, like what is going to happen to their kids, grandchildren, but I guess just ignoring everything allows for happy endings somewhere inside&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Just Don&#8217;t Get It! by Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would respectfully change the title of this post to :

&quot;We just don&#039;t give a shit&quot;...  Scary to see that what would seem to be 90% of the population just not caring enough to see where this is all heading.   I don&#039;t even know if caring is the right word.  The mainstreamers just wake up, drink their coffee, get in the car, sit in traffic for an hour, sit in a cube for another 8, sit in traffic again... and repeat, repeat, repeat.

Everyone is desensitized to EVERYTHING.  Mass murders of students, forgotten in a week.  Hurricanes destroying entire coastlines, a distant memory.  I think the only way humanity will truly understand the full effects of this will be when they wake up one morning and their cars are underwater.

Really.  A sad, sad state of affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would respectfully change the title of this post to :</p>
<p>&#8220;We just don&#8217;t give a shit&#8221;&#8230;  Scary to see that what would seem to be 90% of the population just not caring enough to see where this is all heading.   I don&#8217;t even know if caring is the right word.  The mainstreamers just wake up, drink their coffee, get in the car, sit in traffic for an hour, sit in a cube for another 8, sit in traffic again&#8230; and repeat, repeat, repeat.</p>
<p>Everyone is desensitized to EVERYTHING.  Mass murders of students, forgotten in a week.  Hurricanes destroying entire coastlines, a distant memory.  I think the only way humanity will truly understand the full effects of this will be when they wake up one morning and their cars are underwater.</p>
<p>Really.  A sad, sad state of affairs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by neath</title>
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		<dc:creator>neath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, Ross, KM cannot access your email from there. Send Neath a line or two.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Ross, KM cannot access your email from there. Send Neath a line or two&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by neath</title>
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		<dc:creator>neath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys ought to talk to Patrick Asch of Heritage Laurentienne. He&#039;s an expert on wetlands, particularly in the Lasalle area.

Building and building for the sake of  keeping the economic wheels in motion is what has got us into  most of the  trouble we see today, urban sprawl, oil dependency, climate change, etc. Human beings are extraordinarily adept at avoiding long term consequences for short term pleasures, even if those short terms projects create huge disparities between the haves and have nots.  As long as we can pretend the system is on our side, we can tolerate short term injustice, provided it does not annihilate our dreams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys ought to talk to Patrick Asch of Heritage Laurentienne. He&#8217;s an expert on wetlands, particularly in the Lasalle area.</p>
<p>Building and building for the sake of  keeping the economic wheels in motion is what has got us into  most of the  trouble we see today, urban sprawl, oil dependency, climate change, etc. Human beings are extraordinarily adept at avoiding long term consequences for short term pleasures, even if those short terms projects create huge disparities between the haves and have nots.  As long as we can pretend the system is on our side, we can tolerate short term injustice, provided it does not annihilate our dreams.</p>
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		<title>Comment on KB by Burnett</title>
		<link>http://neath.wordpress.com/2007/01/12/kathleen-brimacombe/#comment-12559</link>
		<dc:creator>Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i didnt expect that..lol nice pics</description>
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		<title>Comment on Lesson # 1: How To Not Build A City by marke</title>
		<link>http://neath.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/lesson-1-how-to-not-build-a-city/#comment-12558</link>
		<dc:creator>marke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said. how ridiculous. this city has so much going for it, but we have a business community that not only holds us back, they pull us down; and, we have a municipal government that just continually seems to show us that they are completely incompetent. 

what to do?

can we take them to court for negligence, or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said. how ridiculous. this city has so much going for it, but we have a business community that not only holds us back, they pull us down; and, we have a municipal government that just continually seems to show us that they are completely incompetent. </p>
<p>what to do?</p>
<p>can we take them to court for negligence, or something?</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Ross Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had a casual breakfast with Ross Blackhurst of the Lasalle borough and we briefly discussed development of the Turcot Yards.

He advocates expanding the tax base by cleaning up the toxic soils and then build . . build . . build.

My hobby-horse is to let nature clean it up with careful nurture of the natural wetlands.

Blackhurst worked for decades in the RR Yards that were Turcot back when. He believes mucho in the work ethic and rags-to-riches through hard work. Now he is on the side of the developers (go figure).

Despite all this, people like Blackhurst are worth the effort to win over to an eco and sustainable alternative.

PS Hope that KM will note my email address and stay in touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had a casual breakfast with Ross Blackhurst of the Lasalle borough and we briefly discussed development of the Turcot Yards.</p>
<p>He advocates expanding the tax base by cleaning up the toxic soils and then build . . build . . build.</p>
<p>My hobby-horse is to let nature clean it up with careful nurture of the natural wetlands.</p>
<p>Blackhurst worked for decades in the RR Yards that were Turcot back when. He believes mucho in the work ethic and rags-to-riches through hard work. Now he is on the side of the developers (go figure).</p>
<p>Despite all this, people like Blackhurst are worth the effort to win over to an eco and sustainable alternative.</p>
<p>PS Hope that KM will note my email address and stay in touch.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lesson # 1: How To Not Build A City by alanah</title>
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		<dc:creator>alanah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Les Sables Bitumineux a Montreal? Non! &#8211; No Tar Sands in MTL! by neath</title>
		<link>http://neath.wordpress.com/2009/11/29/les-sables-bitumineux-a-montreal-non-no-tar-sands-in-mtl/#comment-12555</link>
		<dc:creator>neath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good link, even if the truth hurts, but it&#039;s not about what we like to think the world thinks of us, but what we actually do. Stephen Harper is dragging us to the forefront of being one of the least caring and destructive nations on earth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good link, even if the truth hurts, but it&#8217;s not about what we like to think the world thinks of us, but what we actually do. Stephen Harper is dragging us to the forefront of being one of the least caring and destructive nations on earth!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Les Sables Bitumineux a Montreal? Non! &#8211; No Tar Sands in MTL! by Factotum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Factotum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cif-green/2009/nov/30/canada-tar-sands-copenhagen-climate-deal</description>
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		<title>Comment on Expropriate Charest, Boulet And Beauchamp! by neath</title>
		<link>http://neath.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/expropriate-charest-boulet-and-beauchamp/#comment-12550</link>
		<dc:creator>neath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, I got that up a tad late but hopefully people will just carry on! Fly on wall indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, I got that up a tad late but hopefully people will just carry on! Fly on wall indeed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Expropriate Charest, Boulet And Beauchamp! by Manuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though the invitation was to fax the notices of expropriation between the 23rd and 26th, it certainly can&#039;t hurt to do so after those dates as well...I&#039;d like to be a fly on the wall the respective minister&#039;s offices to see the reaction as the fax machines churn out expropriation notices!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though the invitation was to fax the notices of expropriation between the 23rd and 26th, it certainly can&#8217;t hurt to do so after those dates as well&#8230;I&#8217;d like to be a fly on the wall the respective minister&#8217;s offices to see the reaction as the fax machines churn out expropriation notices!</p>
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