Noise At Meadowbrook.

Video by Jo Ann Goldwater of Les Amis de Meadowbrook.

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8 responses to “Noise At Meadowbrook.

  1. Meadowbrook is hardly the only place where trains are a noisy daily annoyance. Come down to St-Henri where everyone (whether they are living in old wood cottage or a half million dollar condo) is suffering the near constant noise of the trains.

    At least at Meadowbrook, the developers will be able to build effective sound barriers and plant trees to buffer the community from this irritant…

    Why are we not insisting that CP and CN find solutions to this issue ? Both sound and air pollution caused by trains are a big problem across the city.

  2. I have no idea why developing Meadowbrook has become so urgent for you, Jody, but it is just not a good idea. Montreal is way below international levels of green space and Meadowbrook is a precious and rare tract of open land that we desperately need to preserve as a green space.

    Train noise is an issue, but does building neighborhoods that bring in hundreds of automobiles help the situation? Nun’s Island is a good example of how development just exponentially lowers the quality of life in an area – each new highrise means a hundred or more cars idling in line to get to the Champlain Bridge. Meadowbrook, by virtue of it’s location is also somewhat isolated, and development just brings more traffic problems to a much larger area.

  3. I have no urgent desire to see Meadowbrook developed but I have become involved in this debate because I object to any group distorting the facts to achieve their objectives. Portraying Meadowbrook the golf course as a wildlife sanctuary and fragile ecosystem threatened by greedy developers intent on building highrises is wrong… Some groups who consider themselves environmentalists have stooped to the level of politicians. They want to win at any cost, even if this means omitting or twisting certain facts, and not allowing the public the opportunity to decide for themselves what they want for themselves. Muddying the debate by suggesting that the area is un-liveable due to the trains, is a bit insulting to our intelligence. Stick to the real issues, don’t distract from them.

    If you look at what One Planet Communities are all about http://www.facebook.com/1planet and http://www.oneplanetcommunities.org/communities/ and http://www.oneplanetliving.org/index.html
    then you’ll see that they are not only concerned about the same issues as you are, they are doing something about it.

    I’m shocked that we cannot put aside our own agendas and accept this amazing opportunity to bring to Montreal a development project of this calibre and with this kind of vision.

  4. People have been working to “save” Meadowbrook for decades, the movement is not a knee jerk reaction to recent events. A golf course can be easily adapted into a forest. As you know there are many types of multi-tasking trees that grow quickly, can help remediation on the land, and provide excellent sound buffering.

    Developing Meadowbrook for the sake of a few hundred condos is simply really bad urban planning, given it’s park potential and the many groups whose ideas for the west side of Montreal could include Meadowbrook as a crucial point for a green network. Developing Meadowbrook is just as irresponsible as building on Mount Royal.

  5. Ken
    I agree with everything you are saying about the need to create a green belt and Meadowbrook will always be big part of that, even when families and shops and other amenities share a small part of that total green space .

    One Planet Communities is hardly ”Developing Meadowbrook for the sake of a few hundred condos” … Why would you even suggest that this is the case? Don’t your readers deserve a more objective explanation of the issues?

    Phytoremediation is a great idea and a big part of the developers plan to decontaminate the little creek that still runs above ground there… In fact they envision new marsh lands that will also help filter grey water for a new walkable community designed to have sustainable transportation and very few cars, zero waste, zero carbons, sustainable materials, local and sustainable food, sustainable water, wildlife and forest (70%?!) not to mention a sustainable, equitable local economy and amazing quality of life.

    I wonder why the environmental groups don’t take on the more urgent challenge of vast brown fields surrounding Meadowbrook where phytoremediation would have a dramatic impact on the landscape?

    Homes and communities cannot be built upon these contaminated lands without exorbitant costs… Yet simple phyto-remediation strategies can transform those areas into the future green belt we all aspire to see, and it could be done within a five year time span.

  6. Sorry, Jody, but I just can’t endorse any development at Meadowbrook for a number of reasons including the old adage that where there is smoke there is fire and Montreal has a history of using the back yard gate to gain access to the whole property.

    As for my “readers” I will assume they can form opinions of their own. This is a personal blog, and there is no pretense of
    some kind of journalistic objectivity being offered here. I write what I think and people can roll whichever way they want with it.

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